There are scammy and spammy products launched into the “make money online” niche all the time. I’ve given warnings and done various product reviews over the years, but there’s so much junk out there that I couldn’t cover it all if I wanted to.
I’m also not primarily in the business of being an Internet watchdog. It’s not really all that fun. So I tend to ignore most of the scams that land in my inbox, and try to stay focused on delivering value through my own business, and making money in ethical ways online.
Once in awhile something will really catch my attention or make me mad, and that’s the situation today.
The Prelaunch Hype
Over the past week or two, I received several “JV invitations” for a product launch called Free Commissions. I get those kind of invitations all the time, and it basically just means that someone wants me to promote their product as an affiliate. Some of those invitations came from Clicksure (the payment processor), from a JV broker, and from a 2nd-tier affiliate.
According to one of the invitations, the launch is being conducted by Tim Atkinson and Zak Meftah. The JV invite page contained a video of Tim Atkinson, and was signed at the bottom by “Tim Alexander”.
I’d give you a link to the page, but frankly it’s an embarrassment to the Internet marketing community (although it is sadly typical). There is no mention of the product itself or the value that will be provided to customers. It’s only about how much money they made on their last launch (over a million), and how they’re going to make more this time. There are affiliate prizes including a BMW.
Before I continue, I’ll give the first of a few disclaimers that I’ll offer throughout this review (to add perspective, and hopefully avoid being called a hypocrite). I’m not against product launches. They are a big part of my own business model, and I also teach how to do them. I’m also a fan of affiliate contests. I’ve participated in many of them, and held plenty of my own. |
What I’m NOT a fan of is when marketers utterly disregard their customers, and that’s the feeling I got from this launch before it even started.
The Emails
In spite of the above hype, I really didn’t give this launch a second thought. After all, I’ve seen it all before.
Then the emails started hitting my inbox. Again nothing new, but what caught me by surprise was two things…
– The number of people promoting it, including some that I’ve associated with in the past.
– The outrageous lies contained in the emails.
OK, time for my next disclaimer. I’m an email marketer too, and I’ve pushed the envelope with my marketing at times. But I ALWAYS make sure I can substantiate the things that I write.
Unlike many of the emails I saw for Free Commissions… |
“I just saw this sick video on YouTube and it’s received already 1,539,922 views in the last 5 days.”
Really? That’s funny since it’s not on Youtube, and the sales page just went up today.
“This video was shared 189,294 times on Facebook.”
Really… the moment it was launched?
“Good news! Your application has been accepted! Please review the details of the position here:”
What application, and which position was that? LOL
“Your Payment has been approved. Set Up Your Payment Information Here”
Uh huh. I could go an and on with the variations of fake payment notifications, and I’m not even going to bother getting into all the ridiculous income claims.
The Sales Page
After receiving this barrage of emails, of course I clicked one of them to check it out for myself.
www.freecommissions.com (NOT an affiliate link)
Here we have a typical scammy sales video complete with the so-called zillionaire, the cars, the yacht, the girls, the clearly fake testimonial videos, the bank account screen shots.
But here’s what really made my blood boil. The guy, Tim Alexander, goes on and on about all the fakes and scammers. He even goes so far as to say that he’s NOT an actor!
Of course the fine print at the bottom of the page says “In some cases actors have been used.” So I guess that makes it OK for the actor to say he’s not an actor!
The worst part was the ridiculous income claims. Folks, I’m not even going to waste my time, or yours, by quoting the outrageous claims made in the sales video. I’d be typing them up for the rest of the day. The gist of it is this…
You will make hundreds of thousands of dollars per month, with ZERO work.
This is the message that is given over and over and over again throughout the video.
Yet another disclaimer. I’ve got nothing against sales videos. In fact, I’ve been known to write very persuasive sales copy and create very persuasive sales videos. But there’s a huge difference between persuasive copy, and outright lies. These guys didn’t even use qualifiers in their script, such as “you could” (make money), or this has the “potential” (to make you rich).
They just flat out said you will make tons of money with zero work. |
The price was $49…
But when I clicked to leave the page, I was given an exit splash page with a $20 discount. As I continued to attempt to leave the site, I encountered no less than FIVE exit pages.
The final one took me directly to the shopping cart, with an offer to buy Free Commissions for only $9. At that price, I figured it was worth it just for the entertainment of seeing what was behind the curtain…
The Payment
The payment was processed by ClickSure. From what I understand, their business was birthed as a result of the scammiest of products/vendors that got kicked out of ClickBank, who needed a new way to sell.
According to ClickSure’s website, they are based in China and Mauritius. Because of this, it seems to me that they are not afraid of the FTC, or anyone else who might come against them for making false claims.
Last time I purchased something through ClickSure, my credit card company’s fraud department called me within minutes to verify the transaction. That didn’t happen this time (yet), but I was certainly surprised to see this statement on the thank-you page AFTER I paid:
“ClickSure.com is an International Company and therefore due to fluctuated Currency Exchanged Rate, the actual amount that appears on your credit card statement will be slightly different from your order amount.”
Well that’s nice to know.
The Upsells
These guys truly redefined “upsell hell”.
Here’s my final disclaimer. I’m not against upsells. I do them and I teach them. I usually do an upsell and a downsell. On a couple of occasions I’ve used multiple upsells and downsells in a sales funnel, but I’ve always treated my customers with respect, and there’s always been an easy way out. |
After making the initial purchase, I was presented with SEVEN additional offers prior to reaching the members area.
The first One Time Offer, which purported itself to be “streaming live” was $297. There was no way to bypass the video! I had to watch it until the price button appeared until I could decline. Worse than that, it was totally insulting. It included phrases like…
“Hit the “no” link and go back to your pathetic life of struggle”
and
“You’d be a complete moron to not take this offer right now”
Upon declining I was taken to the 2nd offer, which was the same thing for $197 (but called it a 50% discount). More ridiculous claims, such as….
“$110k a month. All you have to do is copy and paste a link. Literally all the work is done for you.”
From there I was taken to another $197 offer in which Tim Alexander (along with his very busty model friend) said,
“I want to give you my exact website that makes $238,793.14”.
And no, he doesn’t say it’s a copy or a replica of the site. It’s THE site, and he even says he is going to “transfer the site to you.” Again I had to watch this video before I could decline the offer.
From there, I was taken to another video, in which the busty model friend offered to give me the same website for only $97!
From there, I was taken to yet another offer which I was forced to endure before I could decline. This one was $175, and offered…
“Free commissions for life, without ever doing any work, without even lifting a finger.”
Yes that’s a quote, as are these:
“The only thing you have to figure out is how to spend the money. This is no hype, no gimmick.”
“All you need to know is that when you wake up in the morning you’ll see commissions like this, for life, for free. The money never turns off.” (While showing a screenshot of $68k/day commissions)
When I declined that offer, I was offered the same thing for $75. As we were obviously getting toward the end of this funnel, the insults continued to get worse:
“If you’re going to say no to this, do us both a favor and just quit. Go back to your pathetic life. You don’t have what it takes. Are you the loser that most people think you are?”
Apparently I don’t have what it takes, because I said no… and was taken to yet another offer! This one was for a $1 trial. I’m not sure of the total price, as I didn’t stick around to watch the full video.
The Product
The membership area is laid out in an organized fashion. Unfortunately, it seems to be organized in such a way that its primary objective is to get more money out of you.
Here’s a screen shot:
Step #1 is to register for the member’s only webinar (Better hurry, there’s only 10 seats left). Nothing wrong with webinars, or selling via webinars for that matter, but most likely the objective in this case is to sell you something expensive. I made the mistake once of allowing someone to conduct such a webinar with my customers. I will not make that mistake again.
Step #2 is to schedule your strategy session via telephone. Hmmm, interesting that the signup form asks you how much money you have available to invest in your business training! A classic tactic, and a sure sign that they’re going to be selling you some expensive coaching. (The more credit you have available on your card, the more it’ll cost).
Step #3 is to claim your “free website”, which is actually just a video that leads to a web hosting affiliate link. The strategy itself is not a bad one. I’ve got no problem with offering incentives for web hosting referrals. But I wouldn’t exactly consider this to be something worth paying for. If it were my member’s area, I’d call it an “unadvertised bonus”, as I often do with such offers.
Beyond those three steps, most of the members area consists of advertisements. So where’s the product?
There is a web-based squeeze page builder, and a couple of plugins and videos. Those tools and information are OK, but certainly do not even begin to fulfill the claims made in the sales video.
I didn’t find ANYTHING that required zero work. For example, the squeeze page builder has templates, but you still have to write your own copy. Even if it DID do all the work for you, I don’t see any possibility of making the volume of “hands free” income that the sales video promises.
They do deliver something. I would even go so far as to say it’s “possible” to make money with these tools. Squeeze pages are a great component of a permission-based marketing model. I use them all the time, and I make money with them. But that doesn’t even BEGIN to justify the marketing.
I call this a scam. I’m very sensitive about using that word, because it is often not justified by those who use it. I’ve been called a scammer simply for being in the business of teaching others how to make money, and it never feels good.
Often what we’ll see in this industry are hyped up sales pages and products that do not meet all the expectations of those who buy them. That does not necessarily make something a scam.
In this case, the blatant lies, combined with utter disregard for the customer’s experience leads me to label it as an actual scam.
The Bottom Line
Watch out for this one, and others like it. I’ve been warning about these kind of scammy products for years, and we’ll be seeing them for years to come. They will always find another payment processor, etc.
I was really disappointed to see so many well-known marketers promoting this scam. Most of them are not scammers themselves, but in this case are guilty of blindly promoting something without checking it out first.
I thought about publishing their names here (there’s over 30 of them listed on the JV page alone), but I don’t want to muddy the waters and turn this into a hate-fest. Some of them have promoted my products in the past, and/or I’ve promoted theirs. These are guys with huge influence… the combined power to contact millions of people almost instantly. That’s partly why I felt it was important to call out this scam; since I know many of my readers are on those lists.
I do expect some flak from this review, and there will obviously be some fallout from former JV partners when it comes time for me to launch my next product (which is soon).
If you were someone who promoted Free Commissions, I’m asking you to do something brave. Send an email out to your list and retract your endorsement. I’ve avoided naming names (you know who you are), so just do the honorable thing and renounce this scam.
Like I said at the beginning of this review, these kind of things are not fun to write. I do not intend to make a habit of it. But I just couldn’t stay silent on this one today.
As always, you are welcome to post your questions and comments below đ
Have a great day!
Hi Eric – gutsy move. Unfortunately, it’s not the first time this Tim has been involved in um, let’s say questionable tactics.
He seems to sleep just fine, but I don’t think I would. Nor would I feel entirely comfortable, standing in front of a mirror, with a razor in my hand.
There are reasons and justifications and excuses and rationalizations, I’m sure – but I don’t think he’s lightening his karma any. It’s a shame, he’s not stupid – he could use the same mental energy, the same drive and focus – and be something really good.
I saw this promoted yesterday by some trusted marketers myself. I started to watch the video but it was obvious pretty quickly that it was too scammy to be real. I let it run while I did other things then went back to check out the price, just out of curiosity.
When someone promises you thousands of dollars a day for NO work and $49 you have to know it’s a bunch of BS.
Anyway, thank you for the review. I was curious what the heck this product was and I hope you’ll save some poor soul from getting ripped off by purchasing it.
Best to you Eric, much appreciated!
You are great Eric, beleive me I have been scammed a lots and this note from you opens our eyes for scammers, God Bless you………..
Thanks Eric.
Just the name “Free Commissions” would have made me ignore it. Nothing is for free.
I think the free commissions come for the JVs that promote the product given all the upsales and promotion inside the members area.
Any hints besides ‘a couple’? I want my email list cleaned up…
Thank you so much! This review speaks volumes for you Eric!!
Thanks for the great article. I’m on a lot of lists, and I got hit with a lot of promotions for this product.
From the first scene of the BMW roaring up to the camera, it felt scammy to me, which of course was verified by the number of declines it took me to get out of their promotion hell.
I hope the JV folks get a clue. I’m keeping track of the ones who promoted this garbage, and if they do it again, I’ll be off their lists.
You are a true asset to the IM world. Thanks!
Thank you for your report, I have been getting their e-mails in my box as well. Thanks for the warning.
George
What would we do without the honest guys like you Eric. I have been mugged so many times in the past, through my own stupidity and it is so nice to see that someone really cares enough to expose such sellers to their list of customers.
I do not know how such people as this can sleep at night and they degrade the honest marketers out there, making it harder for all honest marketers. They should be banned from ever being allowed to sell to the market of those that are looking for a way to make their lives more enjoyable in making enough to just help them with their bills, which is what many potential buyers want and need to make their lives a little better.
Of late, i will not even open an email, unless i see the product name that they are introducing to me. I have grown to hate these particular type of emails and just will not waste my time reading them. I want to know what the product is called, whithin the first couple of lines, not wade through an whole email only to find that there is no product name included.
Many Many thanks for your sterling work.
It’s a great idea, but I don’t think I want to be reviewing products every day. It would be too depressing đ But I can see that my readers appreciate it, so I’ll try to keep doing these reviews once in awhile.
There are a couple places that seem to be a good source of reviews in the IM niche…
IM report card: http://www.imreportcard.com (Great site, and great idea. The only thing I don’t like is if you sign up for their list, they will promote stuff to you. Not a bad business model, but feels weird to me)
Warrior forum: http://www.warriorforum.com/internet-marketing-product-reviews-ratings/
(As I’ve said before… don’t get caught up wasting time in any forum. They can be very addictive. If I’m leery of an IM product, I’ll often go over there and see what people are saying about it. In the case of Free Commissions, no one had reviewed it yet, which gave me all the more reason to check it out for myself)
Also, Mike Filsaime is apparently coming out with a new affiliate/payment solution (to compete with the likes of CB and clicksure), which ranks products based on real customer reviews, thus focusing on quality rather than EPC or “gravity”. I’ll keep an eye on it as it develops.
GREAT work Eric!
I HATE “scammers”; they’re the “scum” of the world!
They can (as a group) literally bankrupt people! I know – I’m one of their (collective) victims.
They need to be eliminated, & YOU just helped with that, via your expose’.
PLEASE, PLEASE keep doing this, whenever appropriate.
Thanks for spreading the word Pawel đ
Dang me Eric, I’ve never heard you like this so I’ll just take your word for it and stay clear of it.. Your honesty is greatly appreciated; God Bless Ron Townsend Florida
Thanks Eddy:
I’ve either stopped dealing with or never began dealing with a lot of the names that I recognized on the list.
Fortunately, none of my current trusted advisers including Eric were listed!!!
I actually don’t have a problem with selling a new system with no results other than my own results. I’ve done it too (but with NO testimonials and NO income claims).
What blew me away in this case, was seeing that disclaimer at the bottom, and then seeing all the fake testimonials, with ridiculous income claims. Also it’s obvious that the money (if the screen shots were even real) was made from other product launches, not from the “system” being pitched.
Great article —-I new to this ans I saw the video and recognized that it wasnt right. Id like to receive more of your reviews In particular. I am looking at IM Target. I now Anik Singal is a reputable marketer so im confident in the purchase
Eric I am 80 yrs old…i pound the Internet with passion loking for a pogram that can offset my SSI…but here is an example of a real bad dog…we seniors fall for this sort of BS all the time…of course the reason is to find that extra income site that actually provides a true way to succeed….can uyou help me? Thanks for the scam alert believe it or not I already figurd this one out myself.
Thank You, Eric!!!
Thank you so much for this information Eric! Yes, those email messages are coming in daily so my delete finger has been busy.
How do these people sleep at night?
Again, thanks for the heads up and a great article.
That’s a good point Neil, and that’s part of the reason I decided not to post any names. It’s also possible that someone on the list had agreed to be “on board”, but changed their mind after seeing the sales video.
That having been said, I’ve seen the JV leaderbaord and many of them are on it, plus some that I was sad to see.
Out of respect for individuals, I’m still not naming names, but here are some quotes from the JV partners on the leaderboard:
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“Offer is crushing for us Tim!! #EPIC”
“Dude, it’s been A LOOOOONG time since I did over 300 sales in one day… this offer is nuts and it’s not slowing down…I actually did more today than I did yesterday!!! DEFINITELY one of the best offers I’ve hit in a VERY long time.”
“Some affiliate will do 3,000 sales and $100K commish with this.. no joke… Go.. go.. go…”
“Yeah what the hell.. $5 EPC? lol”
“Bro! — I’m seeing a $4.24 EPC … haven’t seen that from this list in a LONG time! BALLLLLLLLLLLLLLER!”
“I almost fell out of my chair this morning when I logged in to see a $4.85 EPC. Best converting offer I’ve seen so far this year. Nice job, Tim! :)”
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So in case anyone was wondering, do people REALLY buy into this junk? YES they do, and in fact it seems to be converting VERY well.
The quotes above obviously reveal the attitude of these marketers. When I do product launches, I do celebrate when conversions are good. I’ll tell my JV partners the EPC. But having done dozens of 6-figure launches, I’ve NEVER seen comments like these from my partners. These guys seem completely oblivious of the customers, and 100% focused on the money. Their list is just numbers to them.
Great Post Eric. I have actually bought something from Tim Atkinson and it was ok, but I saw this too and thought, “Wow, you have reached a new low!”. I also looked at the list of affiliates and was not surprised to see a few other scummy marketers on there. Not all are bad, but there are a couple I have seen and bought from before that should be kicked off the internet for the lies and crap they sold.
I am sick of Anthony Morrison and his 5-10 email messages daily.
What really gets me is that he looks so innocent and credible when presenting all his spam on videos.
Stay away from him!
Thanks Eric,
I have run up against some of these people. Thank God, I got caught only once. Learned my lesson and now am very careful about hypey sales letters and outrageous claims.
Good Work!!
Geri
Hey Eric,
Great post. I tried to sign up for this ad just before I signed up with you. Fortunately, the payment processor would not accept my card.
Keep up the good work.
Hey Eric,
Thanks for the heads up. I checked it out and you are totally correct! It just smells of scam.
If it were really that easy, Everyone and Anyone could do it.
I just got scammed by a guy named Daven Michaels. 123 Employee.
Same deal, no escape from the upsells There was NO opt out provided at all. I made a mistake of clicking on a sales form just trying to get out, and it automatically charged me another $67.00. I initially went to his page to purchase his “Physical” book on outsourcing.
I never received a book, or any digital downloads he was promising.
I sent 3 support requests and 4 emails; no phone number provided.
I started a claim through my bank. 123 Employee faked a screen shot with a fake URL saying that I received the products.
The URL wasn’t readable or real. I have since had to escalate the claim through my bank.
All this to say, I appreciate your keeping us informed about scam artists like this guy.
Real money comes from Real work and sweat.
Thanks Again
Lee
I asked for a refund and was told the refund takes about 1 week. And the Clicksure refund and billing dept tries to upsell you as well. The people I talked to at Clicksure claimed that their phone services were based in Utah. Also I totally agree with you Eric on this. It is a scam there is no way that they can do it for you as per the guarantee.
I wouldn’t assume the people on the JV page are actually promoting this- they could be listed there just to lure in more affiliates.
This is Anthony’s brother !and this is the way they operate. I made the first purchase from a T.V ad,(books) just thought I was the problem (newbie) then Anthony gave me a totally “Free” website,well, one of his associates was on the phone wanting $300. to give me website instructions.As for the promoters, I had one that I thought very highly of,until I reached the conclusion he would promote anything! I didn’t need him.
Thanks Eric, not many want to tell the truth these days.
So what is the story with Anthony Morrison?? Is his product another one that leads to road that goes nowhere???
THANKS A LOT, ERIC, FOR THIS! I will go as far as to say BEWARE OF CLICKSURE, period. I was seduced by two different programs offered through them with extremely professionally enacted videos, brilliant actors, the Ferrari and the palatial mansion (that did not look as if anyone had ever lived in it) and the whole thing, full of psychological props. Must have cost a small fortune to make. But then it was exactly what you describe. Patently false claims, brazen lies, and a multilevel upsell Hell. When I claimed a refund for three programs bought at the same time, as I saw that they did not deliver any of the promised goods, I was told repeatedly and automatedly that payment had been made, but I never received the money, even though it was divided between two different credit cards at two different banks in two different countries. They would not respond to my four times repeated demand for payment details, transaction number or something like that, obviosuly necessary to trace the payment if it was really made. Just repeated that the money had been sent on such a date and that I had to talk to my bank about it.
The second program was clearly produced by the same people on the same pattern but with different actors and scenery.
These are really PROFESSIONAL SCAMS.
So my wisdom would suggest never buy anything from Clicksure.
Eric: I have been getting this garbage it seems almost forever, Now the only thing I open is that which comes from you!
Keep up the good work
ART?
Eric this same scheme is being done under Affiliate Marketing..It’s called Affiliate Marketing using the same screen lay out etc as this one. Webinars are not about Affiliate Marketing its another Marketer trying to get you to buy there product.
Thank you for this honest revelation. I have always trusted you and your products. that’s why I specifically created a folder for Eric’ Tips. highly valued!. Thanks again!
I have to apologize, if I offend any one here. Are we not preaching to the choir here? I have a very different take on authority and integrity in marketing that 99% who claim can not back up. Those who remain untouchable behind the servers iron curtain could be considered scam artists! Marketerâs information and policies need to be the forefront of you internet business NOT THE PRODUCT you are trying to sell. Many of you quote the FTC, have any actually read it? If anything, read the DOT COM’s do’s and dont’s!
The Guru’s that are marketing to the marketers, need to up their game and work like a business. If we are truly interested in bringing up the next generation of marketers, we need to take responsibility and show them exactly what is required to be successful.
Scamming people out of $49.00 dollars and telling them âthis is the keyâ to be successful in business is not teaching business. Blogging about tips and tricks is not teaching business. For that matter, marketing to the marketers is a scam in itself!
If someone is going to take a risk in establishing any web enterprise, they need to know fully up front what it is they are getting into. I have yet to see a product that does exactly that. There should be no up front costs associated to that.
For those that do not know, there are only a handful of tools required that actually cost to run an internet enterprise. Domain, Hosting, Auto Responder are the top three on my list.
If you can not afford that, you do not belong in this business. Next, Web Authoring, Graphic Design, if you do not have these skills you will have to pay someone. Trusting a scammer that tells you, âthis is all done for youâ, does not mean it gets the job done.
I despise scams as much as the next marketer. The question is, when are the Guruâs going to stop scamming and step up and become the professional business that they profess to be. It is ashamed that you can not even reach these people by phone! The top fortune 500 companies in the US, all have phones that people can call and get information. With the salaries that the Guruâs claim, donât you think they should have a phone support service in place that is not based on a ticket email program?
If youâre in business, you should be able to be reached like a business and not be charged for âcoachingâ âconsultingâ is this what we do to build trust?
When I set out to build my web enterprise, I promised myself I would do it with honesty and integrity. I always answer the phone when my customers call.
Can’t remember, but maybe I am wrong here, wasn’t he banned from Warriors Forum… not sure!
Thanks!
thank you Eric in keeping the bubble in the center of the scale.
Thanks Eric, I’ve been caught in these kinda scams before. Keep up the good work so legitimate marketers can make a living at what they do.
Len
Thanks bud đ
Hi Eric, it is wonderful to see an honest review there are so few,in pointing out the worst. Especially for new people trying to find their way with internet marketing.. We received this FC video in our email and my husband broke it all down and then commented with details of Tim and the gang equated to absolute rubbish to many of the so called scam reporting /reverse ezine sites etc,who will sell FC scheme anyways, he was unfortunately moderated on his comments and deleted.
Thanks again for taking a stand on this it is greatly appreciated. PS this FC inside dashboard is a rehash of ‘Twin Peak’system same creator too!
Eric,thanks for your honest comments.I admire your bravery, don’t fear you are divinely protected.
Thanks for the heads up Eric,its nice to see these scammers getting shown up for what they are. I had already seen this, but these days when they start showing large mansions, expensive cars and boats, I grab my mouse to click off the page straight away.
I have had dealings with Clicksure in the past with One Minute Commissions, and I found them very helpful and I received a full refund without any problems.
Thanks Again
Trevor.
Clicksure keeps sending me all kinds of offers to get me to keep the product for 60 days.Whats up with that? Are they hoping that I will forget and not be able to get the refund because I went past the 60 days or what?
He makes me sick really. I love Miami in the back ground. Nice!
Keep up the great work Eric
Eric, great post…thanks for bringing this to light…I’ve gotten a slew of emails from marketers trying to push this “opportunity”. I get turned off immediately upon seeing the start of the first video…Can’t stand those types of videos any more….Thanks again Eric….
@ Charles Mohr,
I like your comment as that is the way it should be.If you offer a product you should have phone support and be able to answer questions and offer guidance.I have also purchased products that offer phone support and when you call you get an answering machine that asks you to leave a message and then they never call back.
What a bad acting… and all of those who knows just a bit of a body language and eye contact, they understand that all those testimonials are COMPLETE LIES!
Thanks Eric for this review…
Thanks Eric for your very detailed report. I wish more marketers were as ethical as yourself, which is why I’m still on your list after many years. Will check out the JV list and will be unsubscribing from even more lists!
Cheers, Ken
Wow . . .Eric, thank God for you. Getting harder to distinguish what’s what. Thank you.
Thanks Eric – I think the rest has ALL been said.
Cheers Mate.